quilting eh?

Is that like running with knitting needles?

heh

-B-

hmm, i disagree

Of course the new quests and armour are only for member servers! members pay $5 a month to get the new quests and armours! if there was no incentive to become a member then only a very small number of good hearted people would bother!

and how can you say "too many quests"! you dont have to do quests, they are there for the people that really enjoy doing them! and the main reason there are so many is that millions of people whine when there isnt an update every single week. games like ragnarok online have decent updates only once every few months (for a while they went 5 months without a single content update!) but because people hadnt been conditioned to expect an update every week, this wasnt a huge problem (although after 5 months people were getting impatient haha).

and im glad you didnt try to pull in the issue of "advertising revenue" as justification for non-members recieving more updates (although i note they actually get a few - ie new ranger gear, a few spells a while ago)as from what people have worked out, even if they were getting a great deal for advertising - say 5c/impression (which i doubt) they would still only get ~$2 a month from non-members. under half what members pay and that doesnt even take into account the ads that members do see while navigating runescapes main pages!

as for the ease of combat levels, i do agree with you in some points. it is a whole lot easier to level up now, and so getting to huge levels is no longer such a big deal, however i think this was a positive change. when playing runescape classic, i almost never trained combat as it was horribly slow, nowadays it isnt so bad, if i want to get a combat stat up, i just spend a few hours training. this has also lead to more fun in the wilderness and other places, as the gap between those who play 20 hours a day, and those who only manage 5 or so has decreased.

i also dont think should they have compensated for the change to rs2. if it bothers people, there is still runescape classic.

also, from what I have heard RuneScapes population is actually on the increase. the largest number of players ever was recorded in late april, at about 125k. the population is _changing_ and many older players are finding other things, but this is to be expected.

this isnt meant to be a personal attack on you, i just wholeheartedly disagree with many of your points.

Before i spam back :) i would like to thank you for responding with such a detailed reply knowing that these words are actualy ready
As to what you said regarding the quests, well personally im not a big fan of them and never was. Despite RSC or "RS2" i never enjoyed them, but then again everyone is different.
In response to what you said about the advertisements, can you really blame them? If you were to create an online game wouldn't you want to make something off it. Regardless of how much they make per click they still need something. And for a small price of $5 i think it is quite fair that the members recieve more priveleges and advances however they must be maintained in my oppinion.
Unfortunatley i was not swayed by your response towards the combat, as a player of Runescape since its creation it ailes me that i was not compensated after spending countless hours of advancing in the game. I remember that once the new version was released in a matter of 2 weeks, many of my friends levels began to skyrocket. A good friend of mine who was currently in the 70's bloomed into a round 100. He had surpassed me in a matter of weeks and with considerably less time. You have to understand what i felt in a sense. Although it is nice to see that people are actualy more interested in training due to its ease it seems unfair to all those who played before them.
If i am in fact wrong about Runescape's decrease, then i have nothing to say except great. It would be nice if i am actualy wrong, it would just re-asure me that Runescape is not yet "blundering"

Regardless if you disagree or agree, it is pleasing to see a response. Thanks

that these words are actualy read*

Well, I'm sorry that RS2 is such a letdown for you Data Hacker :(
I personally like it, and didn't notice too much of a difference in combat training, as I had played for 2 years previous to update and have played for about 2 1/2 more since, and haven't gained combat levels too much quicker.
But, that may have been just because I spent a lot more time on skills after the update.

I like the RS2 graphics, and in my opinion they are the best part of RS2.
The combat difference seems to be more to make up for the lack of the "Anti-Run before 3rd turn" rule, as you need to hit harder in order to kill someone before they escape (binds, multi combat and run energy being less effective than that).

I also am pained to see the common "Member Priveleges" debate going on here- There has never been an overall agreement that I have seen. Here is my opinion on the matter:
Nonmembers is, essentially, a demo. It may be comparatively huge (considering time limits/very little content in other online games), but it remains in essence a demo, as the players do not contribute to Runescape except to the community.
Jagex gives members the most updates, not because they "deserve it more", but because they pay for what they get, and the payment goes to keeping up and improving nonmembers servers as well as members ones. Unfortunately that may be unable to sway you, as I have seen when certain unhappy nonmembers have complained.

I guess I've had my say now, and you may judge my words as you wish...
But I hope you don't go, or maybe just come back a few months/years from now...

Sincerely,
magikchicken

Edit:

Sorry I forgot while I was typing, you didn't say you were quitting, only that lots of other people were.

Ignore that, and change it to "I hope too many people who have played since before RS2, the core of our Runescape community, don't leave, as said community won't be the same without them."

;) Sorry.

greetings,
there is a need for balance in runescape, and that balance, i believe is that, if you pay, you get lots of cool stuff and no ads, if u dont pay, u get some cool stuff and ads. that makes sense. as was stated earlier, if u didnt get anything as an incentive to pay for membership, almost noone would do it. right now, im f2p, but i might become a member cuz im going full ranger from now on. and i dissagree with u on that it takes a long time to up lvls.

i dont think i made that very clear before, sorry, but what i meant is that once you get to about lvl 60 in any skill, it gets insanely hard to up lvls.

Magic chicken rules.

Magikchicken:
That is quite an interesting way to put it, regarding the demo. I agree with you to an extent on that. However realize that when RSC came out, there was no such thing as Members. Jagex released Runescape as a free game, for the public. Im sure that they had every intention of releasing "members" servers. Anyway... what im trying to say is that although Runescape was released as a "Demo" this demo grew into money. You are absolutley right members do deserve those priveleges. As a member i endorse them. However since RS was orginally released as a public and free game its my personal belief that they should also update the non members as well.
Regarding the graphics, once again i do agree they are great, they bring RS a certain class and look that getts you addicted. I remember during the RSC times i couldn't wait until 3d would arrive. I even believed it was a conspiracy that they made us wait :)
And no i am not quitting, i never had an intention to and dont think i ever will, until i gradually have 99 in everything

Gilformen:
As you mentioned that it is "insanley hard," well if you believe it is insanley hard then in RSC it was about 10 times harder to gain a combat level. Thats my point. I do agree it is quite difficult to a certain degree, but compared to the RSC method it's barley anything. Realize that now with every hit (1damage) you gain 4xp (im pretty sure) in both Health and your selected combat style, however compared to RSC you only gained a limited 20-30 xp per monster. I personally don't like the combat skills they just bore me. I would rather waist my Runescape playing time on other skills that actually entertain me to a degree.
Yet again, yes members should recieve their current updates, however they simply cant neglect the non members. Even in your case, if RS would shut down their non members what do you think would result in RS? The free members would leave and possibly a hundred or so would acquire the long awaited Members. What about the others though? if they will leave, then RS would lose their future buisness. As we grow out interests change and the current members will just stop playing and paying. Thus RS's population would begin to dramatically depricate. Also, im sure you as a non-member wouldn't mind more bank space or other member skills would you?

ihan hyva

Well, in my opinion runescape was a pretty good game back in the day but the 3d version just prooves that they tried too hard and ended up screwing up a good thing. The game runs alot slower and personally i think it looked better before too, it's not that original anymore and just not as fun.

This is for cloud. I like to team with you on runescape some time.
My name username is halo4lif3. im combat lvl 55